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Posted March 17, 2016 by Taylor Anderson in category "Uncategorized


  1. By Lou Schirmer on

    I went to the book store today to see if ROB was out in paperback yet. I was trying to find out what the corrected specs were for the two row radials. No luck.
    However, I saw DD & glanced at it to see whether our corrections made it in. They did. Pretty cool to see our inputs on paper! I didn’t check them all, as the page counts are different than the hardcover. I just found some of the easy ones. Yes, I could have gotten the Kindle version of ROB, but at $14, I’ll wait until it comes down in line with the rest of the series.

    1. By Taylor Anderson on

      Y’all’s input is always appreciated. As I’ve said before, I think the way the specs get goofed up is that, when changes don’t match those in previous style sheets, appointed copyeditors default to earlier style sheets and change stuff back–all in a genuine, good faith effort to preserve continuity! This has been a never-ending battle. And even when they acknowledge my revisions for the paperbacks, they don’t always change the STYLE SHEETS so the same errors return again in later books. Very frustrating. In an ideal world, I would’ve had the same copyeditors from start to finish, and they would’ve recognized that the cast of characters and specs would evolve from book to book, but it just doesn’t work that way. In a sense, we’re all actually pretty lucky they let me include that (pretty big) chunk of stuff in the books at all, since extra pages (and ink!) means extra cost for them, for no return that fits their business model. Don’t forget, they didn’t even let me include the cutaway of Walker in the first few books! Now they don’t even squeal when I sometimes rather egregiously abandon the wordcount limit. FYI, my contracted wordcount is @ 150,000. The last few books have been @ 180,000+–and I sure don’t get paid more for those extra words! Ha!
      So ultimately, yeah, considering that in the grand scheme of things, my complaints are like shooting BBs at a mountain fish, we should all be grateful they make ANY changes I recommend, and I’m sure grateful to you for helping me catch them. Plenty of cause for satisfaction for all who contribute here.

      1. By Lou Schirmer on

        They’d probably bitch about the extra word count & specs & character pages if your books weren’t best sellers! :)

  2. By Alexey Shiro on

    A suggestion for Alliance AA-gunnery practice (and fighter pilots).

    A wire-controlled glider, launched & guided from parent plane. Just the most primitive gyro autopilot onboard (mainly to control the roll), and two simple electrical motors/solenoids to control rudder and elevators through the polarized relay. Onboard the parent plane, operator controlled glider through the kilometer-long wire, by simply connecting the glider servomotors with parent plane dynamo through the polarized relay. When no power is applied, rudder/elevator is put into a neutral position by simple springs.

    Basically, it’s mid-XIX century remote control technology. Four wires in cable, two servomotors, one dynamo. Two wires to command “rudder left/rudder right” (by powering the servomotor & choosing the straight/reversed polarity), two to command “elevators up/down”. Ailerons are under gyro control all time.

    Simple, cheap, useful.

  3. By Justin on

    Would the Allies have the know how to build a paintball gun, could it be mounted on a Fleashooter, and would it be safe to shoot it at another Fleashooter? If yes to all three, it seems like a good ATC training item.

    1. By Lou Schirmer on

      They might be able to build one, but I don’t know if they’d be able to make the ball part holding the paint strong enough to withstand the launch velocity needed for long range work. Most paint guns are low velocity affairs, but for air to air training, you’d need to up that quite a bit to get the range needed. If they could, it would probably punch holes in the doped fabric of the Fleashooters. It might even hit hard enough to shatter the windshield & damage the wooden propeller. If I was them, I’d have to pass on the idea.

      1. By Matt White on

        Yeah, the way they did it back in the day was to have a plane tow a banner way behind it and have the others shoot at it. Not ideal, can’t really learn deflection shooting that way. But without simulators or something akin to miles gear you can’t really train for that realistically anyways.

        1. By Alexey Shiro on

          Drones, guys. Target drones. The lion’s share of US military anti-air efficiency later in the war was due to Radioplane target drones, which allowed gunners & pilots to be trained against maneuvering targets.

          1. By Lou Schirmer on

            Drones will be the way to go eventually, once they get the radios & actuators sorted out. Until then, to get something to shoot at right away, they’ll probably go the banner route.

          2. By Alexey Shiro on

            Well, as a probable half-measure – target glider with primitive gyro autopilot (1910s tech), towed into air by the plane. On altitude, glider would be released & then used as target. Cheap, but better than towed target.

          3. By William Curry on

            Actually the army developed frangible bullets for the .30-06 cartridge and reinforced the structure on P-63’s (the ones that weren’t sent to the Soviet Union)among others and used them as manned targets for the trainee pilots to shoot at. The round was originally call the Cal.30 Ball frangible T44 and later type classified as the Ball Frangible M22. It used a 107 grain bullet composed of 50/50 powdered lead and Bakelite with a mv of 1360 fps from the machine gun trainer M9. Production in the later part of the war was 30 million rounds per months. See “History of Modern US Military Small Arms Ammunition Vol II 1940-1945 pages 87-91. Good project for Baalkpan Arsenal.

          4. By Alexey Shiro on

            “Actually the army developed frangible bullets for the .30-06 cartridge and reinforced the structure on P-63’s (the ones that weren’t sent to the Soviet Union)among others and used them as manned targets for the trainee pilots to shoot at. ”

            Problem is, that Alliance could not adopt that method – their machines aren’t metal and could not be armored much. So, towed targets & drones remain the only possible solutions.

          5. By Steve Moore on

            If you can steer a drone, you can steer a bomb. Don’t need a Grik pilot.

          6. By Justin on

            Two problems with drones: the Allies need to have good enough RC technology, and more importantly, enough spare planes for target practice. Every plane counts right now.

          7. By Alexey Shiro on

            “Two problems with drones: the Allies need to have good enough RC technology, and more importantly, enough spare planes for target practice. Every plane counts right now.”

            Well, for target drones – who did not operate in highly-hostile radio environment and who did not need exact precision of, say, guided bombs – even the most primitive radio control would work.

            P.S. In theory, you could just use wire-guided drones, controlled with several kilometer-long wire from control plane.

          8. By William Curry on

            Using frangible ball on the drone would reduce the damage and probably allow them to be used more than once. At this point using a drone one and shooting it down would be very expensive training. The frangible ball would break up on major structural members or the engine rather than causing serious damage. Yeas it would go through fabric, but that can be repaired or replaced easily. Wasting an engine or the radio control equipment on a single flight would be a prohibited waste of resources for the allies at this point. The army also had a method of coating the bullet tip with colored inks which would leave a colored mark on the aircraft of target sleeve so they could tell whose hits were which. When they get to that point frangible ball could be used for direct fire on tanks in training with sub caliber devices in AT guns or other artillery.

          9. By Matthew White on

            Target drone technology and command guided munitions actually arrived at about the same time. Both the Germans and Americans fielded radio controlled bombs during the war. The Fritz X famously sunk an Italian battleship after Italy surrendered.

  4. By Alexey Shiro on

    Happy New Year, guys! According to Chinese calendar, the 2019 is a year of Yellow Ground Pig, so let’s hope this cute animal would bring us happiness and joy! Happy New Year!

    1. By Lou Schirmer on

      Happy New Year Alexey! I guess you’re already celebrating over there. Only 6pm New Years Eve here.

    2. By donald johnson on

      If Taylor sees one it will suddenly sprout a LARGE hole.

  5. By Charles Simpson on

    So Taylor what books/series you have finished would your recommend to those who love your books? And guys what books or series you have finished that most remind you of the Destroyermen series? My favorite, other than Destroyermen, was SM Sterling’s Island in the sea to time series where the coastguard training ship Eagle and the Island of Nantucket go back in time.

    1. By Taylor Anderson on

      I have really enjoyed David Weber’s Safehold series. I like pretty much everything David has written, in fact. Great guy, tremendous storyteller, and freaky smart.

      1. By William Curry on

        I can also recommend the old master Robert Heinlein who’s been dead for over 30 years and yes all Heinlein’s works were political. Also check out P.T.Duetermann and D.C.Poyer, they both write contemporary or historical naval fiction. Dueterman has written some especially good fiction set during WW2. He usually interleaves the technology and tactics into the story in an interesting and central but not distracting way. Hans Helmut Kirst used in experiences in the German Army from 1933 to 1945 to write novels. In non-fiction read Storm of Steel (Im Stahlgewittern)by Ernst Junger, it’s his memoir of the Great War. I will warn you that the English translations were usually done by Brits who did their best to make a German come off as a public school Englishman.

        1. By Steve Moore on

          What would you call it… Libertarian mixed in with Free Love?

          1. By William Curry on

            That’s probably a good description of Heinlein’s adult works. His juveniles didn’t have much free love in them but plenty of libertarianism in them. One of the first writers of military sf was Phillip Francis Nowland in “Armageddon 2419 AD” the original Buck Rogers novel in 1928. It’s a good read and nothing like the later cartoon strip or the TV series.

        2. By Taylor Anderson on

          Heinlein’s early stuff–Red Planet, Farmer in the Sky, Rocket Ship Galileo, etc., is what got me interested in sci-fi. Didn’t like his later stuff nearly as much, and didn’t discover it until I was already enjoying other authors I liked more–without the pornography

          1. By Steve Moore on

            Agree.. took something away from it. Same thing when Louis L’Amour was crowded out by soft-porm westerns… need some more good cowboy movies

    2. By William Curry on

      If you like Taylor and David Weber, you will also like John Ringo.

      1. By Justin on

        Not necessarily – Ringo’s a whole lot more… political than both authors combined.

        1. By Alexey Shiro on

          Unfortunately. He is so inclined on fighting liberal strawmans, that Scarecrow from Oz declared him a sworn enemy.

          1. By William Curry on

            My understanding is that the Scarecrow of Oz was only a fellow traveler not a card carrying party member.

      2. By William Curry on

        Justin, do you object to Mr. Ringo being “political” or do you object to his particular brand of “political”? I see Alexy objects to his particular brand. David Weber and John Ringo collaborated on the Prince Roger series. Taylor and Mr. Weber’s works are just as political as John Ringo’s and IMO have the same preference for modernism and its enlightenment values that John Ringo has. Mr. Weber and Taylor write works that if movies would be PG-13, whereas Mr. Ringo writes works that would be R or TV-Ma. None of the three are writing in a post-modernism vein.

        1. By William Curry on

          The Safehold series is especially strong in modernism and enlightment values.

        2. By Justin on

          It depends, are all his books like Troy Rising? Because if so, I’d counter with how Mr Weber and Mr Anderson realize that they’re writing stories, not manifestos or Author Tracts. They don’t do any blatant race bashing either.

        3. By Alexey Shiro on

          ” I see Alexy objects to his particular brand. ”

          With all respect, but Ringo problem is not the politic tones as themselves – as you correctly noted,

          ” Taylor and Mr. Weber’s works are just as political as John Ringo’s and IMO have the same preference for modernism and its enlightenment values that John Ringo has. ”

          – but the style in which John Ringo basically shove his political views down the reader throat. Lack of tact, I dare say. Also (IMHO), because he worried more about heroes fighting the political agenda, rather than opposing characters, his bad guys are rather… dull and two-dimensional.

          “Prince Roger” series is especially notorious, because the bad guys are so hypocritical, that basically they threw away their own agenda for more hypocrisy. The Saints who are ecologically-opposed of the human colonization of other planes are also living on the other planes, because Ringo wanted them to be as hypocritical as possible, forget about making sense. If he sacrificed a bit of hypocrisy, he could make them live on artificial space colonies and hollowed-out asteroids, which would make their anti-planetary colonization agenda much more sensible, while maintaining that they are still Bad Guys who are cruel and zealous (and more than willing to bend their agenda to suit their leader’s needs).

          1. By William Curry on

            There are a lot of people in this universe that believe “do as I say not do as I do”.

    3. By Lou Schirmer on

      Jack Campbell’s (aka John Hemry) Lost Fleet series is good. For something a bit different, try Larry Correia’s work (MHI & Grimnoir series, also Dead Six).

      1. By Lou Schirmer on

        Also try Robert Adams’ Castaways In Time series. The first three were good, they kind of went down hill after that, with #6 being the last & worst. His ill health & death may have had something to do with it.

    4. By Generalstarwars on

      Gonna come out of hiding real quick to say that I love anything by Harry Turtledove, Ender’s Game , the “Honor Harrington” series by David Weber, the “Old Man’s War” series by John Scalzi, the “Gaunt’s Ghosts” series by Dan Abnett(It’s sharpe’s rifles in space), and the Horblower and Sharpe’s Rifles series. Also The Martian and the other book by that author.

  6. By donald j johnson on

    You should sign your books like the author hunter S. Thompson. With your gun!

    1. By Taylor Anderson on

      What does he do? Shoot a hole in them? I guess I could do that. Let the reader pick the caliber!

      1. By donald j johnson on

        He has lots og guns and lets you pick it. I pick the doom whomper

      2. By Steve Moore on

        12-gauge, so you don’t miss the flamboyant signature. But then, I’m an insurance guy like John Hancock.

        1. Taylor AndersonBy Taylor Anderson (Post author) on

          Well I do, of course, but even I might consider that excessive. Would be hard to piece anything coherent back together. Opens a sack of confetti, mixed with leaves and dead grass. “Hey! My book is here!”

          1. By Generalstarwars on

            *parents bring in box*
            “What’s in here? This thing weighs a ton!”
            “Oh it’s the new book.”
            *Opens box and pulls out confetti covered iron roundshot*

          2. By donald johnson on

            I agree you would need a coffin to display the book.

    2. By Charles Simpson on

      Actually Taylor could sign a book with one of the Doom Wopper’s lead-tin bullets there is a reason a pencil lead is called a lead 😉

  7. By Lou Schirmer on

    Time to remember the Greatest Generation, those who served & those who fell when the USA was attacked at Pearl Harbor. My dad was at sea on the USS Benham (DD-397), escorting the USS Enterprise that day. He said they all knew it was coming, when was the question. Which was answered, 7 Dec 1941.

      1. By Lou Schirmer on

        Cashed in his chips in 1989, but thanks on his & his brother’s behalf. His brother was Army, but we forgave him. :)

  8. By Karl Fritzinger on

    I have enjoyed reading the Destroyermen series and was wondering when the next issue (14) will be out?

  9. By John Lyle on

    I have a slight problem. I am about to start river of bones but I can’t remember if I read Devils Due. In Devils Due is that where the allies attacked the Grik Capital with bombers and Kurokawa get a League battleship?

    1. By Lou Schirmer on

      Hi John, I believe that was in Blood In The Water. In Devil’s Due, they deal with Kurokawa, his new battleship & the hostage situation.

  10. By Mary Williams on

    Thank you Mr Anderson. Just finished reading your fifth book after noticing a super review of the series in the. Spectator magazine here in East Sussex England. I was born in 1940 so am fairly aware of WW2 but more of Vietnam war. Thanks again – do you know of a database of the lead characters?

    1. By Charles Simpson on

      As we can only post one link per post I should point out the Special Categories list that will be an index to help your search on the WIKI:

      A fast way to go to the index is put curser on COMMUNITY go down and click on Special: Categories. You will see that there is a broad Characters list (About 335 named characters in the books to date) and divisions in Male and Species. Say you wanted to know the percentage of Female Lemurian Characters (28) 28/335 x 100 = 8.35% 😉

    2. By Steve Moore on

      That’s how it starts.. you read one, then have to read the rest, then you loan them out to trusted friends. Before you know it your bookshelf is bare…

  11. By donald j johnson on

    Saw that taylor is rezding one of my other favorate authors. Genesis fleet VANGUARD. By Jack Campbell

    1. By Taylor Anderson on

      Yeah, Jack Campbell is a friend, and they sent me Vanguard to blurb. Really liked it, and look forward to the next. As a friend, I’m ashamed that I’ve never had a chance to read the rest of his stuff–I don’t get time to read much fiction at all, it seems–but I loaded his “Lost Fleet” series on my Kindle some time ago. I plan to read it, (and catch up on a LOT of things I’ve missed) this coming summer.

      1. By Matt White on

        I’ve read the lost fleet. Actually got into it around the same time I got into your series and went back and forth while waiting on releases. Cool to know you two are friends. Do you also know Harry Turtledove personally?

        1. By Taylor Anderson on

          We have the same agent and I met him a couple of times at conventions, but I doubt he remembers me. Seemed like a very nice guy.

          1. By Matt White on

            I think he may have the same issue with book covers. In the colonization series the covers depict events that never happen in the books.

          2. By donald j johnson on

            I have read all of his books that I have been able to find they are very good. I like the way he started his next series

      2. By matthieu on

        I read the whole thing. The first books are really interesting and fresh. Suddenly is becomes less interesting as the content is just the same. When he introduced the new aliens he almost jumped the shark. At the same time the new series (shattered stars IIRW) is interesting all characters are grey.
        I don’t read prequels as I don’t like the idea.

        His books are a little bit too US centered. I mean that the author uses far too much the current US morality and way of life to explain the way his Sci-Fi characters act.
        Ex: a major plot is “the love between the admiral and the ship captain, something obviously forbidden as they belong to the same command line”… Something which is forbidden only in the US (most other countries don’t care or expect people to behave like adults). It’s something that Destroyermen have been able to avoid as each group has its own morality.
        Ex2: politics are always corrupt and useless while admirals are perfect…

        1. By Justin on

          I dunno about #2 – Hemry/Campbell’s written plenty of horrible, power-hungry officers throughout the first six alone. Unlike, let’s say, Ian Douglas, it seems pretty clear that the grievances are with bad leaders in general.

        2. By Lou Schirmer on

          Campbell shows what might happen in the military & civilian halls of power after a century of fruitless slaughter. There are some good politicians & some bad ones with many making bad decisions for the best of reasons & vice versa. As there are now. The same goes for the military forces, with a bitter twist. I don’t want to ruin it for Taylor with specifics though. I, personally, enjoyed the series immensely & the prequels are engaging in a new start, frontier sort of way.

          1. By Matt White on

            When I described the series to a friend I said, imagine the main character is a decent normal starship captain. But nothing extraordinary. He comes out of cryosleep to find that the prevailing doctrine of the day is “fly us closer so I can hit them with my sword.”

  12. By matthieu on

    Today (for me) is the 11th on November and thus the end of WW1.

    During the was Europe basically committed suicide and destroyed itself with a tremendous enthusiasm. All available weapons were used. Nowadays some areas in my country remain in the red area: completely destroyed, too dangerous for re-habitation (a 2005-2006 experiment found 216 active shells, fuses and grenades on a 100m² area, digging only up to up a 15cm depth). They are unfit for population and heavily polluted). Event forests at the location are off-limit (trees are full of splinters and too dangerous for lumberjacks and the soil if full of lead, arsenic, phosgene…).

    Today 60 heads of states come and each of them visits its own war graves. There are hundreds in my area. Not hundred of graves. Hundreds of cemeteries. Each of them with 1.000 to 50.000 graves.

    If you select randomly a class of 100 men, by the end of the war one 34 are dead. 23 have been wounded at least once.

    Rigth now Macron and Markel are at Rethondes (place of high significance as armistices if ww1 and ww2 were signed there). Right now Trump was also expected in Bois Belleau but he cancelled “because it’s raining” (while his advisers go!). I’m really close to there and yes, there it’s just raining a little bit. This is a shame…

    1. By Taylor Anderson on

      Hey Matthieu. Yep, I made a lengthy “11-11-11-18” post on the “Goat’s Ass” urging folks to reflect on the sacrifice of all involved, and to honor all veterans.
      As a Frenchman, your perspectives and observations are always noteworthy since you do, indeed, live upon one gigantic battlefield. It’s hard think of anyplace else on earth that has been fertilized by more blood throughout the centuries than France.
      By the way, thanks for the other little note you sent. Much appreciated, and I’ll put the contents to good use.

    2. By Alexey Shiro on

      “During the was Europe basically committed suicide and destroyed itself with a tremendous enthusiasm.”

      As I once stated, “during the World War I, the Herbert Wells vision of future replaced the Jules Verne’s”. The naive optimism of late XIX century was gone; fear and uncertainty came to rule instead.

  13. By Justin on

    Can’t believe I didn’t think of this earlier – shouldn’t U-112 have an Enigma machine onboard?

    1. By Charles Simpson on

      Assuming the Germany in the world the League of Tripoli comes from has Enigma machines. It is possible the Germans if they have them provide the codes for the League if so until the League is aware of U-112’s defection the Union will have an intelligence bonanza.

      1. By Steve White on

        According to Wiki, the Japanese and the Italians had simpler versions of Enigma-like devices (electromechanical rotary wheel code machines). If so, one wonders why one wasn’t salvaged from Amagi — perhaps because the Japanese ships then didn’t have one? But the knowledge of rotary wheel coders was known from the end of WWI, so the League may well know about them. Whether U-112 has one…

    2. By Matt White on

      My guess is the league changed their codes after U-112 left so small chance of eavesdropping. However the union can make use of the enigma themselves. Without Alan Turing or someone of his caliber and a computer to go with him the league has no hope of cracking their own encryption system. This is going to be a big coup for the union and go a long way to securing their comms. Enigma is poorly suited to real time tactical comms though. That can only be fixed by better comms discipline.

      1. By Justin on

        The only problem I’m seeing is that IIRC, proper communication would require at least one rotor machine to transmit, and one for each recipient.

        What the Union could do is take the Enigma apart, mass produce an earlier design, and put at least one in every single HQ. Still gives the Allies vital hands-on electromechnical knowledge, but the League might be able to figure the simpler machine out with enough time and resources.

        1. By Matt White on

          Only if they have mathematicians. Number theorists and crypto experts aren’t all that common even on our world at this time. It’s highly unlikely they have anyone with the training. The League has more people but like the destroyermen their skill set in STEM is probably limited to the practical application of military hardware. Mechanical engineering and electrical engineering are going to be the most common. One big caveat is the French were big into sending their officers to get post graduate degrees. The Germans were too before the end of WW1 and their military colleges were shit down. It’s possible they may have an officer in the French contingent with a high level math degree however cracking enigma required putting the best mathematicians in Britain under one roof with a lot of resources. I don’t think that’s a feat the League could match.

          As far as replicating the enigma goes, the destroyermen have experience dealing with electromechanical devices. They have been able to copy the fire control computer of Walker at least twice now and it is also an electromechanical computer. Copying an enigma won’t happen overnight but such a complex machine has to come with service and repair manuals and of course they have men trained on its use and maintenance. I think given time, especially with the skills already earned in precision machining through other projects they could make a functionally exact replica.

          As far as use goes I agree. It’s for strategic comms. Not real time tactical comms. You put them on ships, at bases and in field HQs.

          The key here is that it denies the league to snoop on all of their comms. The rest comes from constantly rotating codes groups from the USN code books as well as really clamping down on the rampant comms abuse in the ranks. Radio silence needs to be observed in combat areas before action starts and nothing should be broadcast in the clear. Frequencies and codes should be regularly rotated and any gear at risk of capture must be destroyed. These best practices are obvious when dealing with a technologically comparable foe but the Grik and Doms don’t have radio so bad habits have been allowed to grow. That should have changed a few books back when it became apparent they had infosec issues. If I were a union Intel officer my first priority would be to dispatch men to clean up the fleet’s and army’s act in regards to comms.

          1. By Justin on

            Yeah, encrypting and decrypting urgent information in the middle of a firefight is a pretty bad idea; every second counts. Use the radio if necessary, and talk in code.

            Speaking of which, callsigns for each unit or flight (Hitman Two-Actual, etc like OTL) seems doable.

            Agreed, agreed and agreed. Now let’s hope they don’t get a particularly bad officer. Or one reporting “nothing to report” every single day like that douchecanoe in the Afrika Korps.

  14. By Adrian Sanada on

    Mr. Anderson do you think when this series has finally come to a close you’d make a section in the back of the book like a Memorial to the Fallen? Commemorating all the Cats, Destroyermen, Impies, and so on who’ve been lost in this war to end all wars?

    1. Taylor AndersonBy Taylor Anderson (Post author) on

      Interesting notion. I don’t know if the back of the final book is the best place for such a thing, though. The copy editor would probably cut it since it would be so long! On the other hand, Charles and others have kept a pretty good list on the Wiki. Might be another one of those things we could expand upon.

      1. By Adrian Sanada on

        That’s very true. So many characters have come and gone that it’d probably be fifty pages of nothing but names! Still I’m glad you’re receptive to the idea itself. Honestly I don’t know how you can keep up with all the named characters you’ve made and where they’re all at.

        1. By Taylor Anderson on

          I don’t think I could without the CoC at the end of the book. And you know, it’s amazingly sad when I delete names of characters who have died, and start prepping the CoC for the next book. Kind of makes it real. Weird.
          What’s fun, though, is when “named characters” who have been mentioned from time to time, but never made the cast because they don’t get a “big part,” or POV, suddenly jump to the front and “make the credits.”

          1. By Adrian Sanada on

            Yeah you’re right I can only imagine what that must be like. Especially for when some of the “Old Breed” of characters from book one finally bite the bullet. So far when I’ve read your books I’ve gotten into the tradition of whenever a character I felt particularly attached to got their send off, I’ll set Taps to play. After watching these characters for just about a decade now I feel it’s the only fitting send off when they go.

        2. By Charles Simpson on

          Not really here are the 113 named Dead: A
          Captain Atkinson
          Brian Aubry
          Pruit Barry
          Andrew Bates
          Walter Billingsly
          Gandy Bowles
          Stuart Brassy
          Jeff Brooks
          Glen Carter
          Celestial Mother
          Russell Clancy
          Sam Clark
          General Daanis
          Leo Davis
          Conrad Diebel
          Harvey Donaghey
          Larry Dowden
          David Elden
          Jim Ellis
          Haakar-Faask (General)
          Francisco Abuello Falto
          Saak-Fas (mate of Selass-Fris-Ar)
          Tom Felts
          Bob Flowers
          Billy Flynn
          F cont.
          Al Franklin
          Sidney Franks
          Fitzhugh Gray
          Beth Grizzel
          Simon Gutfield
          Simon Herring
          Lieutenant Hiro
          Kukulkan de los Isla Guapas
          David Kaufman
          Captain Kurita
          Hisashi Kurokawa
          Norman Kutas
          Raoul Laborde
          Becker Lange
          Irwin Laumer
          Gerald McDonald
          Jack Mackey
          Mack Marvaney
          James Silas McClain
          Ruth McDonald
          Sergeant McGinnis
          Ray Mertz
          Hara Mikawa
          Jamie Miller
          Tony Monroe
          Nakja-Mur (High Chief)
          Ghanan Nerino
          Sato Okada
          O cont.
          Gil Olivera
          Casales Padilla
          Danny Porter
          Andy Powell
          Kas-Ra-Ar (Sailing Master)
          Leslie Ranell
          Harrison Reed
          Antonio Rizzo
          Richard Rogers
          Winny Rominger
          Loris Scurrey
          Andy Simms
          Frankie Steele
          Doc Stevens
          Miami Tindal
          Rick Tolson
          Linus Truelove
          Alfred Vernon
          Adler Von Melhausen
          Sandy Whitcomb

          1. By Matt White on

            Some of those aren’t heroes so they wouldn’t be in the list but it’s a solid starting place.

  15. By john on

    im a big fan have all the books in audio from was just looking at and noticed a review of ROB by someone who obviously hasn’t listened to the previous books. they gave you a 1 out of 5 . it sounded like they thought this was a standalone book and i was confused till i looked at the book cover and realized the cover does not say book 13 or reference the series it just says destroyermen at the top. you may want to change that before too many bad reviews kill sales of the book series

    1. Taylor AndersonBy Taylor Anderson (Post author) on

      Thanks for the heads up, John, but there’s nothing I can do about that. Maybe a marketing decision? The HCs all have a list of previous books inside–that’s where I always look to make sure I’m not jumping into something in the middle–but I guess there’s no real way to do that electronically. Then again, seems like Amazon (isn’t that where people buy Audibles?) usually states “#5 of 13” or something like that? Either way, I haven’t looked at the review you describe. Seems like most of the really negative ones usually read like either they didn’t read it, (lots of “reviewers” actually LIKE to trash highly ranked stuff just for hoots, believe it or not), they’re mad because they can’t get the Kindle for .99, (like I have anything to do with that), or they just honestly don’t like the story. Oh yeah, some people hate all the technical stuff, or character development, and others hate that there’s not enough character development and technical stuff??!!. Nothing I can do about any of that and you can’t please everybody so I just do my best to write the best story I can and let the hate roll off. I have big shoulders. As always, I DO appreciate good reviews, of course, and they really do help–so please feel free to post one of you’re inclined.

      1. By john on

        i have been an audible platinum member since before it was purchased by Amazon and yes they do state very clearly that a book is book 13 for example . the site i was browsing was . i have not used them before and was surprised by that review and that the ROB page did not show book number. they only listed 5 reviews but only the really negative review was accessable.
        keep up the good work personnally i think you walk the line quite well between too much and not enough detail as well as the line between too much detail reguarding the gore of battle and brushing off that aspect of war .

  16. By Charles Simpson on

    Happy Halloween a WW 2 magazine cover with American Soldiers scaring a Jap with a Jack-o-lantern:

    American soldiers scare Jap with jack-o-lantern.png

    Originally shown on the Destroyermen Fan Assn page.

      1. By Taylor Anderson on

        Hey! Yesterday was Halloween! Easy to tell when I’m pretty absorbed in what I’m writing . . .
        I’ve seen that magazine cover before, and I may actually HAVE it. Have to look. My grandfather started one of the first radio stations and recording studios in Texas, (Big Spring), certainly west of Ft Worth, back in 1927. As a news outlet, he received papers and magazines from all over the country, and along with the tens of thousands of 78s going back to the teens, he also had similar numbers of those papers and magazines, um, “archived,” here and there. For good or bad, he had a “never throw anything interesting away” attitude–which I share on a comparatively microscopic scale.
        When my grandfather passed, I was tasked with cleaning everything out. This included his music/sporting goods store (also around since the 20s), basements in several buildings, (some flooded), and various storage/warehouses on other properties he owned. Trying to sort out what was valuable and what was junk, for the benefit of my grandmother, was my first real exposure to archeology.
        Anyway, back to the point, I KNOW I’ve seen that magazine, and for every, say, 1000 cubic feet of stuff I trashed or liquidated, I may have kept a few cubic inches. This includes the cream (to my tastes) of 78s, a few radios dating back to the teens, (including the first US Army wireless transmitter for airplanes, and a couple of stacks of historically interesting magazines. Like my interest in first edition history books written during or immediately after their subject, (examples: “History of the War of 1898” c.1898, “The Great War” c. 1919, “Life of General Scott” c. 1852, “The Rough Riders” c. 1899,” I consider these magazines to be snapshots of period perception, uncolored by hindsight–and certainly by modern revisionist perspectives. (Hindsight might’ve been 20-20 once, but it is increasingly distorted).
        Oh well. Weird that seeing that magazine cover conjured such a stream of revelations and observations!

        1. By Taylor Anderson on

          By the way, the Rough Riders book was courtesy of Charles! Maybe that’s what lit the subconscious boiler.

          1. By donald j johnson on

            Is that old glass radio still in the “couple of cupic inches” 😉

  17. By Johm on

    As always, your books are an incredible read. One question, do you plan on any ships from Halsey’s typhoon crossing over?

    1. Taylor AndersonBy Taylor Anderson (Post author) on

      Thanks John. Well, if anything comes through Halsey’s typhoon, it won’t be anything that actually experienced it. Against the rules. :)

  18. By Adrian Sanada on

    Just finished River of Bones this morning and I have to say it was a fantastic ride all the way through. I can’t wait for June to roll around just to have Mr. Anderson hit me right in my feels like he’s done with each book so far.

    1. By Henry Breinig on

      I certainly agree. River of Bones was quite the good read, though it being a Destroyermen book, that’s to be expected at this point.

      1. By Taylor Anderson on

        Thanks Henry. It was a tough one in many ways but I loved writing it.


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